Vera tells of how she used to pull the bell rope at St. Dunstan’s Church
Resource Type: Audio | Posted on 16th September 2011 by Liam Physick
Vera talks about her involvement with St. Dunstan’s Church, where she was christened, but which she did not begin attending until 1981. She has played a role in functions organised by the Church, and notably pulled the bell rope, something no one else managed to do. Vera has also helped Michael raise money for the Liverpool Sands, a charity concerned with stillbirths and neo-natal deaths (deaths occurring within 28 days of birth), enabling it to create a memorial garden to dead babies
Interviewee Gender: Female
Ian: Tell me a little bit about, about St. Dunstanâ€™s, because thereâ€™s obviously, you know, some beautiful churches in neighbourhood, but obviously a few of them sadly, well, arenâ€™t either here any more or St. Cyprianâ€™s is, is closed . . .
Michael: St. Cyprianâ€™s was demolished.
Ian: . . . St. Catherineâ€™s was demolished . . .
Ian: . . . yeah, but, tell me a little bit about St. Dunstanâ€™s Church.
Vera: Well, I was born there . . . born, says I, I was christened there . . .
Vera: . . . and I could tell you when I was christened as well.
Vera: I was born, christened, 29th September, five weeks (indecipherable) after me birthday. That was it, I didnâ€™t really come to church, not to St. Dunstanâ€™s til nineteen seven . . . 81 . . .
Vera: . . . and then, well, Iâ€™ve been quite involved with the church, havenâ€™t I?
Ian: Is there a lot going on there?
Vera: Well, there was at the time, you know, I got involved with, with eventually doing, pulling the bell rope . . .
Michael: Pushing that until the bell snapped, so Veraâ€™s no longer able to do that.
Vera: Yeah, but I did do it a bit before, and you, Michael, as well, cos . . .
Michael: Yeah, it, it just snapped in half. But you wrote a little history, Veraâ€™s looked at the history of the church . . .
Vera: Oh, yes.
Michael: . . . and knows quite a bit about that.
Vera: The history, yes, well, what, what happened there . . .
Ian: What road is it on, just for the listeners, St. Dunstanâ€™s Church?
Vera: Well, itâ€™s between Freeman Street and Fernside Street . . .
Ian: Right. And itâ€™s off . . . ?
Michael: Earle Road.
Ian: Earle Road, really, yes.
Michael: Itâ€™s on Earle Road.
Vera: Well, it looks, overlooks Earle Road, doesnâ€™t it?
Michael: Yeah, itâ€™s on that, yes.
Ian: We can see it from here, actually.
Ian: From the, from the, from the . . .
Vera: You will do.
Vera: Yeah, well, I mean, all right, I came to church on, I say, 1981, cos I just . . . I donâ€™t know, something (indecipherable) I wanted to go to church, and I did go up to St. Maryâ€™s a couple of times, but that wasnâ€™t . . . well the, the, the minster took over area . . .
Vera: . . . wouldnâ€™t go . . .
Vera: . . . in the winter cos I was going in the evening, found out the morning service down here, and I went. All right, I went . . . Iâ€™d only go two or three weeks and miss one maybe at first, but then, after the new year, cos it was New Year, Christmas, when I first started going regular actually, and, after the new year, I went, and, well, eventually got involved cos they used to have summer fairs and, and Christmas fairs, used to do a bit of that. And . . . course, thereâ€™s . . . actually, I donâ€™t know, one of the wards, not at the time, the, one of the them had been up sort, doing something with the bell, and they were trying to pull it one Sunday morning when I come in . . .
Vera: . . . and I said, you know, I saying, â€śGood morningâ€ť to them, and I said, â€śWhat have you been, what are you doingâ€ť, sort of thing, cos they had the rope and they said, â€śWell, pulling itâ€ť, so I says, â€śCan I have a go?â€ť, and they just showed me how to hold it, and I pulled, and it worked! (laughs) Which it wasnâ€™t for them!
Michael: (inaudible) I couldnâ€™t get a squeak out of it, but Vera really had that technique, it was like a flick.
Ian: And was Michael at the church, when you, when you first started, started going?
Michael: No, no.
Ian: Who was there, then?
Vera: The vicar was there when I first went, his name was Ray Hutchinson . . .
Ian: Right. And how longâ€™s Michael been there?
Vera: Since in . . .
Michael: 48, 98.
Vera: Thatâ€™s right.
Vera: Yes. But after, Ray Hutchinson was there til eight . . . what was it . . .
Michael: I donâ€™t know.
Vera: . . . eighty, eighties, after 89, wouldnâ€™t it be?
Michael: Donâ€™t know, I wasnâ€™t . . .
Vera: Iâ€™ve got a bit mixed up with that, because it was, see, Ray left, and then Russell Jones came as the vicar, and he was there til eventually Michael and . . . yeah.
Ian: Well, it sounds like youâ€™ve had a really happy life round Edge Hill, Vera. Is that fair, is that a fair comment?
Vera: Well, yeah, I mean, Iâ€™ve enjoyed me life . . . Iâ€™ve . . . as much on me own, because Iâ€™ve done, I mean, Iâ€™ve done things round the area, I mean, Iâ€™ve even, what, Iâ€™ve even went to help in, Michael, your, a while back, didnâ€™t I, with the, the fundraising for the, for the Sands.
Michael: The womenâ€™s hospital, weâ€™re, weâ€™re trying to create a memorial garden for babies, and Vera came in May and, and shook the tins in Liverpool One . . .
Michael: . . . and she got much, she got more than anyone.
Ian: I bet she did . . .
Michael: (coughs) Sheâ€™s out there!
Ian: . . . youâ€™ve got a great, youâ€™ve got a great personality (Vera giggles), lots of energy.
Michael: She said, â€śDonâ€™t, donâ€™t stand there, get outâ€ť, and she, she was racking them and she, I think Vera made twice as much as all the other people put together, and there was four or five other people.
Michael: A real energy, it was brilliant.
Vera: Well, I was, what they were doing, they were standing round the table thing that they had there, and I was going, I could see that there was people, sometimes, Michael, you seen them, didnâ€™t you . . . ?
Vera: . . . youâ€™d go forward, but Iâ€™d go forward and Iâ€™d say, I would, Iâ€™d say to the, you know, â€śWould you like to help?â€ť, and Iâ€™d just showed the tin for them to read, you know, and theyâ€™d, more often that not, theyâ€™d put something in.
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